Station commander looked at my medical paperwork and said word-for-word: " You stick to the script. The military is used to this, and they really don't care down the road. Lying at MEPS about medical or mental health history is a really bad idea with serious consequences, as stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign. I would say lying at meps is a low risk high reward type of deal. The paper requests numbers from the pre-surgery, 90 days after pre-surgery, and a month after that. If it won't come up again or if you don't need a TS-SCI, you can get away with not telling. She said a recent one had about 30 pages regarding the procedure. Know what makes you a poor candidate. Unfortunately, she needed to go to sick call several times for persistent coughing. So you want to start a career founded on integrity by lying? Any help would be appreciated. Do people go to jail for lying at MEPS? It seems like the most important mission of the army right now its safety and risk management, and with that in mind, it doesn't seem even remotely worth the risk. Free online program to promote the safety and well-being of military families. The suicide counselor recommended he also consider seeing his own counselor. (January 6, 2021, subversive for attending the rally - not me, but a friend). As above: the truth is easy to remember, keep consistent and coordinate with others. Let's all throttle back a bit. SSG Sean Donahue - Though your verbiage is way bolder than mine (my post on this issue is above) I fully agree with you!!!! I had the surgery in august of 2014. The most popular bodybuilding message boards! Option 2: Lie. My recruiter sent a 10 page report from the doctor along with the 'Refractive Eye Surgery Checklist' paper my recruiter gave me. A young woman wanted to join the Air Force and went to MEPS. They'll simply deny him enlistment and move-on. Yes, you need to be caught in the lie, but that isn't as difficult as you might think. There's been zero issues from the surgery and was absolutely necessary as I couldn't do more than 10 pushups without the wrist being in terrible pain. Recruiter told me to lie . I don't suggest lying, but literally almost everyone I know of has lied about something. Now I've been referred to behavioral health for depression. About 3 years before joining the Air Force, his cousin attempted suicide. And you'll be sidelined forever. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Not disclosing information at MEPS - Advice Needed. Don't worry, you'll be fine, I had no issues. It's sometimes better to keep your trap shut and deal with possible consequences later. The young man did see another counselor in the same clinic, who identified several other stressors in his life, including moving away from home to begin college, worries about the cost of college, and a strong fear of public speaking. ", he thought the answer was "No" because his cousin was the one getting counseling and he hadn't been diagnosed. By logging into your account, you agree to our. LASIK Surgery Checklist. Lying at MEPS is punishable by a $10,000 fine and 5 years in prison. They do that at the School of Infantry. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. After a few more weeks, the doctors determined he did not actually have EIA, but was experiencing panic attacks and anxiety which subconsciously manifested as physical symptoms (a Psychosomatic Disorder). Further, he won't be able to enlist nor commission in any branch of the military ever again. I'm certain they won't be. I swear I've met more dudes getting chaptered in the infantry for mental problems (like a few guys are mentally insane) than I ever imagined. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. I don't want to waste the time of past professors and employers if it doesn't matter. Sometimes Its in medical professionals best interests to lie. What will you do at PI or San Diego when the withdrawal symptoms hit? The girl with the suicide attempt would not be allowed to enlist today though. Some people really really want to join, and they'll try anything. Last I knew, which granted was probably close to a decade ago, it was strictly forbiddenonly PRK was allowed. The suicide counselor for the cousin recognized that our young man was confused and worried from his family's recent crisis. Now they say I need more information such as previous eye prescription, doctors notes, and more. I think the lesson here is not to tell people to disclose everything, becausethey won't. The purpose of this script is to help protect users from doxing, stalking, and harassment. He stopped seeing the counselor after only 6 months from beginning counseling and successfully continued his college education. For both, it's to ensure that only qualified candidates enlist. Applicants often need further evaluation or counseling before they can live the rigorous and stressful military lifestyle. Did I Lie at MEPS??! How do recruiters get medical records to MEPS for a med read? Long story short, I broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. Further investigation found she had a suicide gesture about 6 years earlier due to stress from a recently ended relationship, loneliness (had no friends for support), and academic struggles (failing some college courses). I lied at meps . If I go back to my doctor and ask them to fill it out with the actual dates (even though its not exactly on the mark of '90 days'), will it be a waste of time to send back to MEPS, maybe with a statement attached? It does not belong to any particular service division. That sent me down a long road of having to get a waiver for something that had no current medical basis and was utter medical fraud. !, Military Life and Issues, 8 replies Lying scumbag Johnson on MSNBC lying-no challenge from host, Elections, 31 replies This was the man who my friend had confessed his pot usage to when we first showed up a month ago, but now my friend lied to him and he accepted the lie without hesitation. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Okay, so I need some advice. Went to MEPS the next morning and everything was normal until medical debriefing. According to evidence presented at his trial, the Jacksonville military veteran was designated in July 2000 by the Department of Veterans Affairs as 100 percent disabled for bilateral blindness. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. 03-10-09, 06:54 PM #10. redsox1804. His family supported the cousin and were part an intensive family counseling program for suicide prevention, however this had a strong impact on our young man. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn't they found it at meps . JavaScript is disabled. The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . Right now, between your profile information and this post, you're what we like to call a "tool bag". Do not attempt to interpret the questions your recruiter and MEPS will ask you--answer them as they are written. So I'm trying to go into USMC and I have been talking with this recruiter for a few months now. In the end, I did everything I could to prove I was completely fine. MEPS threaten to put these kids in fucking prison if they lie, and they lie anyway. It was not a mistake for being honest at MEPS, it was a mistake for being dishonest on the paperwork. It indicates, "Click to perform a search". Breaking subreddit rules may result in a ban from r/newtothenavy and r/navy. My cousin was in line for a navigator slot when he joined the Marines. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The main difference between them is that with LASIK, a corneal flap is created and replaced, and with LASEK, the top layer of the cornea is loosened, moved, and reattached. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. When you're an officer and in a time-sensitive situation where lives are on the line, do you really think you have time to triple check? As long as you werent taking the pills within 90 days it wont pop up so just dont talk about them. Adhd is no big deal, however if it's serious I would lie. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Stupid kids want the power, the prestige, the money, the sweet benefitsthe military has a lot to offer. Can You Fix a Lie on Your SF-86 Questionnaire? If you do tell the truth about the surgery and wait 6 months for the lasik, you will probably still be able to get a contract, but you will have to go through a bunch of unnecessary shit. Second, you state that the ORs are pushing you to lie. They don't understand this stuff. Because the military does not. Ive had the doctor write two letters and both have not been good enough. I plan on waiting the 6 months. If you lie about it at MEPS, and get Lying at MEPS, HIPAA and security clearances. Fraudulent Enlistment. 2. She passed all the exams and was cleared, then went to BMT and performed well. So its been about 2 weeks now and have been too scared to talk to him. I got to certain sections and told him I have to say "yes" to these questions and I knew how important they were. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. I played my "sax" a lot in basic. I just finished MEPS after having LASIK.I had to provide all medical documentation from the surgery (pre-op, post-op information, etc.) Overall, I have to say that I am troubled by the way you appear to be perceiving and interacting with the recruiters. In my experience meps isn't that deep of a medical check and it's fairly disorganized. That's just the way it happens. For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if its a no go or not . uuugh, it was hot. Put me in the disqualified for medical category. Not sure why I didnt expect this or was told this. I had the active prescription but wasnt taking them. They only care in the beginning because they don't want to waste money on you for "XYZ" reason for processing, no matter how bullshit it is. Lying on your SF-86 is an aspect of personal conduct, and deliberately falsifying or omitting information prevents investigators from getting the full picture of who you are and how you have conducted yourself thus far. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. After a few weeks, he began to complain of chest tightness, shortness of breath, and tunnel vision, which are classic signs of Exercise Induced Asthma (EIA), a potentially disqualifying condition. Haven't met a personw ho didn't lie. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. And yet when the recruiter tells them to lie so he doesn't have to do paperwork they always believe him that no one will find out. In hindsight, had I known this disaster of 'hurry up and wait' would happen I would have waited another month to check in. My knees were pretty well shot after 4 years active 11B. What Is The Biggest Lie You Ever Heard, Told Or Someone Told You? It is best that you speak with your recruiter and explain that you failed to mention it as your doctor told you it was not an issue. Messages. Let's Talk 3..e-mail: nathaliemunoz@live.comSubject "Let's Talk" you can send me anything you want from any topic!Previous LET'S TALK:1. https://goo.gl/jim. Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. One new winner* is announced every week! Integrity is what you do or how you act when no one is watching. There are many specific medical conditions that may disqualify you from joining the U.S. Military. Press J to jump to the feed. Never got caught. This video I react to a video that JTsuits made where a person was kicked out of navy Bootcamp due to them being medically unfit. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. : r/USMCboot. For candidates lurking here, seeing how the post might apply to their own application, whether for SA or ROTC or OCS: If you have to ask should I Iie, then you already know the answer. I was still in high school, wrecked my car and tore up my hand a few weeks later, was medically discharged :/. I have changed a few details to maintain anonymity, however the basics of the stories are very real and did happen. He was only talking to a counselor because his cousin needed help and he wanted to support her as best he could. Am I? Has "just asking for a friend" EVER worked, even if true? Lying will. If your eyes are otherwise healthy, the services will usually waive up to 5 diopters of cylinder (astigmatism). We can't definitively know the answer to these hypotheticals, but we do know that the military would have never prepared them for it because they never were evaluated. It will regenerate itself in about three to five days. When we started to fill out similar questions with the recruiter I started saying 'yes' on some of the questions. Lied at MEPs about mental health history and drug history. My recruiter went the other direction, really stressed "Make sure you disclose EVERYTHING". Penalties for False Enlistment As stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign, lying at MEPS regarding medical or mental health history is a terrible idea with serious implications. He might have been denied, or if he was approved, he would at least have been more prepared to handle the BMT experience. He hadn't told them he had lasik. We lost quite a few, we were down to just a few of us by graduation. But Im afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . A young man decided to join the Air Force and contacted a Recruiter. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. My 90 day period was more like 2 months, because that's when they called me back for a followup, so it wouldn't have made sense (distance traveled and financially) to go back a month later for a '90 day' followup. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. This is for prior service and new applicants. Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. He did well on the entrance exams and was motivated to succeed. We are going to have to start policing this, because it's becoming too common. Yet I come on this forum and nearly every single hopeful has 4 LORs from all sorts of military personnel and powerful individuals. Know all the risks and procedure limitations. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. My experience: I told the truth about something that should have been a non-issue. They don't understand how a broken leg or asthma when they were a kid can come back, they don't understand how mental issues are severely exacerbated under stress-- because they think their phone breaking is stress, and they dealt with that just fine. I called the head recruiting office in my district and he said the same thing (trust but verify), that letters of rec are no longer considered important to packages. One guy kept getting ahold of his prrsonal items somehow and got caught playing a saxophone in the barracks. Recruits who pass their physical and have no prior history may be accepted because the military does not routinely pull medical information. I went through in 2011 after Lasik. If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. So I was told to go into his office and asked me if I was lying about any paperwork and that is there anything I didn't disclose with my recruiter or if I have done drugs. The largest military subreddit on reddit. MEPS consult will do the corneal mapping, so no, we don't just guess at the diagnosis. Forgetting the medical side of this for a moment You must log in or register to reply here. Hello, thank you everyone for this forum, it has been incredibly helpful. I am perfectly health for Army service and will be telling hte MEPS doctors that *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I lied at meps . So now I have to play stupid as if nothing happened at MEPS but clearly they know I said something at MEPS. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. Know how to find the right doctor. However, herein lies the problem. Unless someone wants to send the mods proof of their M.D., and dig into medical history, you have no business declaring whether or not anyone's medical condition is non-serious, important, real, or anything else. or "Do you have a history of depression? He also said that as long as I take care of it before I leave, I'll be fine. May 14, 2016 Just a note, if you decide to lie about it, you need to be sure that you won't let it slip sometime later. It may not display this or other websites correctly. In another month, his symptoms and concerns had mostly resolved, and his cousin was also much better. In bootcamp a kid had asthma and almost passed out going through the chicken road and he got kicked out for lying about his asthma, so I would be honest. So ur saying stay off the pills for 90 days and I doesnt come up?how? I knew she couldn't hack it but she joined anyways). ; and he asked my friend if he had ever smoked pot. I know a guy who lied about lasik because he didn't want to wait 6 months and nobody at meps found out. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. MEPS' job is the same as the recruiter's job. The lesson is that we need to make it impossible for people to lie. HELP!!! However, they also discovered that the member received some depression counseling about 2 years before her MEPS visit, which she conveniently omitted. Don't even mention the scar unless they ask then keep it minimal "that was just from when I was a kid" if they ask more "yeah I was biking and fell" simple is good. Any advice? During the MEPS process, recruits may be tempted to lie about past events. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Never saw him again. Now the most commonly performed eye laser surgery, LASIK involves creating a partial-thickness corneal flap and using an excimer laser to ablate the bed of the cornea. Come visit our wiki over in r/Navy. And more people are going to lie now that everyone is getting diagnosed with ADHD because they're not interested in school (and ADHD is a disqualifier). ), Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC Copyright 2006-2023, Service Academy Forums is a registered trademark of Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC. why worry about it if it becomes a problem deal with it then. Do not encourage lying. Also, if that user name is actually your name it's a sign that you might not really be very good at this subterfuge thing. The forms tell you that you must disclose it. I got both of these surgeries in order to be a seal, and would fucking hate if the reason I can't get in are the very surgeries I got in order to qualify for training. Some typical things that people lie about at MEPS include: Medical History Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Questions about joining the Marines? For every one of these little vignettes there is an outstanding Soldier, Sailor, Airperson or Marine that said "No" when asked, and is out there doing outstanding shit. Retired in '02 as a Senior Chief(E-8 for you landlubbers). You have runs risk that a Soldier could not live with. TL; DR Anyone with experience of LASIK eye surgery documentation sent to MEPS. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Tough but that is what it is when they find out. Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. The medics at BMT requested and reviewed her civilian medical records to possibly determine the cause and any history of the condition. 48.3k Members 151 Online Created Sep 13, 2012 Join Top posts december 6th 2015 Top posts of december, 2015 Top posts 2015 Yes. . I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didnt they found it at meps . Be the first to receive exciting news, features, and special offers from Bodybuilding.com! Personally, go find another doctor that is ex-military that can weed through the BS. This comment has been overwritten by this open source script to protect this user's privacy. You are using an out of date browser. With his counselor, they decided he should try medication (Sertraline/Zoloft) for control of his symptoms. I swear I was born in the wrong generation. Keratinous is NOT trifling; it is the major cause for corneal transplant in the US-a very expensive medical issue. Good luck to you. (yes pretty much threw him and his boss underneath the bus). Below are abstractions of a true stories. broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. Lost the navigator slot and was made a C130 mechanic. Good luck to you. Is there a glaucoma suspect trait i should be wary of, are there any other eye traits that would require further testing. 1. I've done the 1 month check and will do the 6, 3 months is coming up so I'll have to get that on the books. View Profile View Forum Posts View Blog Entries View Articles View Gallery Uploads Marine Friend . 1) I have been told by my Officer Recruiter that I do NOT need any Letters of Recommendation for a package. While there, he experienced the emotionally stressful and physically demanding environment of being a Trainee at Lackland AFB. Thanks for the details. It also helps prevent mods from profiling and censoring. You're still not getting it. 48.8K. 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