it gave me a swift kick in the pants that forced me to re-examine my position on repetition and its relation to Berean Test reviews. Make His face shine upon you I have really really struggled with this song. Although the song is scriptural, it relies heavily on repetition that in my context elicits a cultural animistic mystical response. Hello, if i may at my church we divide Christian songs into 4 categories. And now the song is just on repeat.I picked up my church directory and sang along over each one listed there. We arent saying Lord, thank you for your abounding blessings that you freely give us, in an attempt to thank Him. Thank you, Norma. [ sarcasm]. Repeating it. Psalm 80:3,7 Turn us again, O God, and cause thy face to shine; and we shall be saved. That being said. Great to acknowledge context, but the Lord extends this blessing to us, it is unending. -God reserves wrath for His enemies (Nahum 1:2). Wow! When they get there, God is going to drive away (through the Israelites) the nations that live there. He is for you, He is for you There is a tendency for Christian to look at people outside the Church, with an attitude tainted with contempt. According to Romans 5:6-8, He died for us while we were sinners, rebellious, His enemy. We are never beyond his rescue. And while we may often think of blessing in material terms, this was a blessing to my heart and soul, as I gave to others through prayer what I was receiving. Never a toil or labor. Bible Scriptures. God has promised you favor. He sees all and knows all. And keep you Coming up is the anniversary of the death of our son six years ago. Im pro blessing, and its absolutely biblical, but its not a worship song in nature. Im reminded of two Bible verses Proverbs 25:16 Hast thou found honey? However, if they just heard this song without any context to it, will some think its about them and be led astray? Prayers Points To Conceive This Year. The writer of the article should tread lightly when condemning a song entirely derived fro Gods own book. One thing about The Blessing is a musical technique that it uses. This post might not make it here but I just wanted to post it even if only the site owners will read it. without my brains signal or something my cheeks make a smile automatically. Dont be shy or have a cow! No, Im a layman with some extra time on his hands! Allow them enjoy the blessing. CHOMP-CHOMP-CHOMP . Michael Negru & Matt Hickok I feel more closely associated with your overall thoughts hereto, not that others have not raised some good points as well.Michael 100% correct about these songs playing to the emotional side of people in wanting to work themselves up into a frenzy with the repeating lyrics and musical crescendo, tones, drums & lightshow galore.This is for the most part false worship & false spiritual feelings. But then I listened to the song again, and I sang along, in a sense praying the blessing over my family (perhaps encouraged by the reminder of His favor to a thousand a generations of those who love Him). And then we read in 1 Chron 7:14, what is expected of the people who are called by His name. Yes, when artists play their music, there is often a charge to hear them play. Oh, and His presence, oh, and He surrounds you It is humbly to know that God is not only for the Body of Christ but for each and every one of us individually. Well, Im late and maybe someone else could put this in a more biblically referenced context, but Id just add that as human beings, we should constantly be reminding ourselves that questions of reasoning, that is, human reasoning like, if God is all knowing, why does God need to be reminded? are concluded from leaning on our own understanding. We are two different sons. It wasnt just King David who cried out for the Lords remembrance. God delivered them from Egypt with a mighty arm and will display the same power against those nations. God bless your ministry work for His cause! Ive been fascinated by this song since the first time I heard it. Inspirational. I like the repetition because its like when we say Thank you Jesus or Worthy are you Lord over and over to praise God. He is absolutely against our sins based on all the scriptures that you referenced. Do they comfort them? More warnings about being sure to completely destroy the nations in the land which God has devoted to complete destruction. Even if the Gospel is preached with a heart of greed, trickery, and deceit, if the Gospel is preached, then I rejoice. Jesus is our High Priest after the order of Melchizedek. Jon I had the similar thoughts as you; that this is very much like taking Jer 29:11, and thinking that it is meant for us individually. Remember them, O my God, because they have defiled the priesthood, and the covenant of the priesthood, and of the Levites. Does that mean that Scripture is problematic? 4 Then you will win favor and a good name in the sight of God and man. 24May the Lord bless youand protect you.25May the Lord smile on youand be gracious to you.26May the Lord show you his favorand give you his peace.. And their children, and their children. However, I wont allow discussion of it on this site. May His presence go before you And behind you, and . Then it hit me: TastyWallet. So, Im not sure how far your argument goes. Isaiah 41:13, NIV For I am the LORD your God who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, Do not fear; I will . Agree? In your weeping, and rejoicing Paul made a point of saying that we as gentiles are adopted into the family of God, and into the Abrahamic lineage (Rom 8:14-17, Gal 3:27-29). It is the elevation of self or self blessing. Although I largely agree with your comments about Elevations teachings, in the future, lets stay on topic and discuss the lyrical content without bringing in artist personal beliefs and theology into the discussion. Refrain: Yes, Jesus loves me! Nevertheless, I do not believed they were intended for a congregation to say it, or sing it, for that matter. I think I understand where youre coming from. O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me! But dont make a law out of that or condescend on someone who finds it to be refreshing and healing and vice versa. It is a blessing offered to believers. A balance between the two is something for which we must strive. The context seems clear that it is the LORD who makes His face shine upon you. The major problem I see is that most people emphasize the emotional aspect of worship. You have shown your last kindness to be better than the first by not going after young men, whether poor or rich. However, the New Testament Church is new Israel, prophecied in Jeremiah 31 and fulfilled throughout the book of Acts. Thank you for speaking out the truth in love, it takes great courage and its what this world really needs even though it may not be what it wants. Those that just want to get through the song may not get what its trying to say to us. Praise Jesus! And I dont see it as a congregation song something that a group of people can sing to. Bless you for your statement! [May] the Lord bless you and keep you, Make His face shine upon you And be gracious to you May His presence go before you, And behind you, and beside you In your weeping and your rejoicing, He is with you May His favor be upon [our nation], for a thousand generations And your family and your children And their children. [18] For who hath stood in the counsel of the LORD, and hath perceived and heard his word? T-shirts, posters, stickers, home decor, and more, designed and sold by independent artists around the world. God alone! Make His face shine upon you Again, I guess this applies only to those in Christ who has fulfilled the requirements of the law on their behalf and thus brought Gods blessing to them. But inside, you know how much it strengthens the soul Here are the 50 most uplifting Bible scriptures on favor. I believe the comment in the conclusion saying Despite its overreliance on as nauseum refrains is unfair and a detriment to the beauty of this song and as such should be removed from the analysis and besides, it seems that most people love the repetition. Robert, I am very sorry for your loss. It is the government that grants these protections known as copyright law to artists, translators, and other individuals. And a thousand generations. This falls behind Bible study, Prayer, Meditation & selected personal worship singing songs / hymns. Repetition is bad. We could argue about any individual artists, as to their deserving of it, but my point is, the copyright is the governments way of protecting intellectual property and prevent theft. As a father of two, I cannot (I feel) ask God enough for protection, blessing, and mercy for my children. Everything has to be explained, emotions are suspect, bad theology isBad. But honestly, I know few who have good theology. And give you peace, [Bridge 1] 1. 2) I also disagree with the statement that God is against THEM (emphasis mine.) Worships direction is upward toward God and God alone. May His favor be upon you And a thousand generations And your family and your children And their children, and their children May His presence go before you And behind you, and beside you All around you, and within you He is with you, He is with you In the morning, in the evening In your coming, and your going In your weeping, and rejoicing Right? What you said pierced my soul and broke my heart. Psalm 5:12 (NIV) "Surely, Lord, you bless the righteous; you surround them with your favor as with a shield.". 3:3. They are hurting and dont need a theological band-aide. 26 May the Lord show you his favor and give you his peace.' Numbers 6:24-26 The New King James Version (NKJV) 24 "The Lord bless you and keep you; 25 The Lord make His face shine upon you, And be gracious to you; 26 The Lord lift up His countenance upon you, And give you peace." ' Numbers 6:24-26 New Century Version (NCV) May the LORD smile on you and be gracious to you. Im not sure how any of us can get away with quoting from copyrighted Bible translations. This. Our entire being, not just corporeal but our actions, our thoughts, our choices, our very nature, is worship because we are one with Christ, because we are indwelt by the living God where our very hearts have become the most holy place where God sits. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. Psalm 67:1 To the chief Musician on Neginoth, A Psalm or Song. Face towardyou But eventually the stress led me to step away from pastoral ministry. It is a prayer based on scripture set to music. And, as I sang along with all the repetition, I praised my God for his goodness, grace, and faithfulness and prayed this blessing in faith for my son and his soon to be bride and their future family, and their children and their children and their children unto a thousand generations. 6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. Amen, Vince. God blessed numerous people who were not believers. The song also encourages listeners to speak blessings over others, just as the priestly blessing in the Bible does. Moved me to tears and prayer. Remember me, O my God, concerning this also, and spare me according to the greatness of thy mercy. Bible Verses about God's Favor and Blessings Isaiah 58:11-12. Both artists are incredibly talented. Thank you also for what you wrote in the comments about the church being new Israel, with all the scripture references. A second Biblical example of God's grace or favor can be found in 2 Timothy 2:1, where the Apostle Paul told his student Timothy, "You therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus." Here, and in many other places in the Scriptures, God's grace gave the beneficiary the ability or strength to do something they . Since God is so generous with His enemies, then we should be as well. As we all know Songs are one of the easiest way to memorize something, it helps me a lot in memorizing the word of god. I agree with this. I, for one, dont think we need to remind God of anything. In praying through this song, I had a deep experience of blessing in the sense of well-being. This time it moved me. Sometimes Gods face on us may involve revealing sin, or stripping away human traits or taking away our comforts or idols so we see Him more. There must be spirit and there must be truth. I understand it might not fit nicely into a church service but if the point is to glorify God, as your review seems concerned with, then I dont think being repetitive is something Hes concerned with. Lost parents, dead churches, humor in the place of joy. [ Speaking as a general rule ]. For instance, Psalm 67:1-2 says: "May God be gracious to us and bless us and make his face to shine upon us, that your way may be known upon earth, your saving power among all nations.". What about Gods rod and staff? For the person who sees Christ in you and comes to know the Lord today, that may be the very blessing of God that breaks the cycle of sin and destruction in their life, passing the blessing forward into their children, and childrens children, and beyond. There will be a time of judgment in the future, but, until then, God graciously gives good things, even to those who hate Him. Ive noticed that many songs dont receive 10/10 scores because of how I believe an unbeliever might interpret this song. They will experience eternal separation from God (Matthew 18:8, Matthew 25:41, Matthew 25:46, Mark 9:43, Jude 1:7, Revelation 14:11, and Revelation 20:10). Susan, it has been years since I counted, but in some form or way the scriptures, Old and New, say in some for Fear not over 250 times. Help me to see the way forward and light my path before me with your favor. I have watched several versions and my favorite is the one from New Zealand/Aotearoa, which really fills me with God spirit and with a great homesickness for New Zealand, which is one of three countries that I call home. I fill the love (aroha) and the caring (manaakitanga) of all those singing the Blessing. Transitional (these songs transition from praise to worship or from worship to praise and usually have some elements of a typical praise/and or worship song) and 4. You are called to be the broadcaster of Gods Word, not merely a consumer/listener there-off & true worship is you proclaiming singing it, instead of just listening to it by sometimes it moving you with fussy feelings or emotions. Repetition is definitely talked about in the book of Revelation. Treasury of Scripture The LORD make his face shine on you, and be gracious to you: the Lord Psalm 21:6 For thou hast made him most blessed for ever: thou hast made him exceeding glad with thy countenance. Something more to chew on! Combines the omnipresence of God (1 Kings 8:27, Psalm 139:7-12, Proverbs 15:3, Jeremiah 23:23-24, Colossians 1:17, and Hebrews 4:13) with the Holy Spirit who lives inside believers (Acts 6:5, Romans 8:9-11, 1 Corinthians 3:16, 1 Corinthians 6:16-19, Galatians 4:6, Ephesians 5:18, and 2 Timothy 1:14) into a blessing. Maybe a blessing to sing over others, like a benediction post service, but is it really me worshiping God? But that has become the norm from a heretical Steven Furtick and Elevation Worship, with sweet pretty face Kari Jobe selling the poison with a smile. And their children, and their children. That, essentially, you are valuable to and will be cared for by God. I must say that I disagree with Dons assessment (and, consequently, your revision of section 3) of this song. Overall my humble opinion is that it is far too vague taken as solely a Christian song & doctrinally not as sound as one would prefer. And to the point from another post about whether it is right for a congregation to sing this I would ask, are we not a royal priesthood as believers? I dont care for the repetition but it seems to be a good song. [20] The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly. That we would become more sensitive to Gods presence that exists everywhere, including the Holy Spirit indwelling within us. But God makes it clear that we, as His people, are to continue to cry out to Him with prayer and petition, with praise and thanksgiving. Love you my brother in Christ. I work at a rehab in South Africa. We usually favor people who also favor us. Say why not just have a Top 100 or less you could learn by heart & sing yourself in worship to God where-ever you may find yourself. The repetition in this song conveys my sense of urgency to have God truly bless my children not with possessions, wealth, or fame but Himself. I have a real issue with this song as a praise and worship song. And behind you, and beside you Singing a blessing corporately to one another and over one another is not only perfectly acceptable but is in fact part of our instruction. Hence I feel you might have been far too generous with your score under the What message does the song communicate criteria. Copyrights are meant to protect the imaginations of those who work on media, whether that is music, movie, book, or video game. May the Lord bless you and protect you. Refrain Five times, with each containing six amen. 3This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. Asaph pleaded with the Lord to Remember the nation You purchased long ago, the people of Your inheritance and deliver them (Psalm 74:2). Believe to receive God's favor. Zakar, then, is as much direct action as it is a mental exercise. Thank you for your comments and welcome to The Berean Test! Just the fact that its from Elevation tells me that I dont want anything to do with it. Scripture: Year: 2020 mtID: 15883 2020 Elevation Worship Records. God made both the intellectual AND the emotional within us. Amen, amen, amen Amen, amen, amen. Ive always found this song to be very man-centered even as it uses a blessing from scripture. I have never been able to understand the fear that some Christians have for the emotional side of the human experience. Slog? After much prayer and consideration, I updated my review borrowing from Brennans wisdom. * Songs that are almost like God talking to us or how he feels about us are either in the 3rd or 4th category those ones are tricky. What gives them a right to copyright their work? Thus the repetition of the blessings as well as the amens. I dont know how we Americans can look at our current culture and compare it to Israel in Numbers. And we can trust Him. I adore this passage of scripture, but this song is so incredibly boring that it detracts from the meaning behind it because you just want it to hurry up and end already! Im surprised the moderator has given no mention/ interaction offered humbly by the UK ministry leader Dave Brennan. 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