We could say that it was suggestive on his part, but considering how this trial was conducted, I tend to believe it happened. I mention in my blog that when her adoptive dad said that she was coerced and thats why she said she did not know who shot them, that of course she was because this is what she does when under pressure. But as usual, it was slanted in the worst possible way. Is Diane really a threat anymore? I did not shoot my children.. So Mark, where are you from? I am a strong believer that pregnancy can do serious harm to some women. The whole blog claims the trial was flawed. I dont care what Diane Downs says at the parole board hearing, except if she is innocent or guilty. Only the people who present ongoing threats to the safety of the public in general are the ones this sentence is reserved for. Diane was right-handed. There is only one major problem with your scenario. It means you dont orphan the kids. I know several people who know or knew both of the surviving children as well as Diane. One of the more bizarre scenes in this farce of an investigation was about to unfold. The blog tries to bring balance and more objectivity to a case that was TOTALLY one sided and still is. In fact, if someone was Hungry like the Wolf in this courtroom, it was a certain crime author who could already smell and taste the fortune coming her way after the publication of this juicy story. During cross-examination, she said that she witnessed the murders while sitting up and that Cheryl was sitting up on the front seat when she got shot. Guilt or innocence no longer need to be debated in this case. She had one arm totally out of commission. I agree that the verdict may have been very different. Master Chief actor Pablo Schreiber has said he won't do an impression on the Halo TV show, suggesting he won't try to . She was interrogated without a representative from the defense and was not taped for the most part. Downs was constantly provoked by inmates because of the nature of her situation, and she never once attacked or defended herself in a violent manner. By many accounts, her children adored her. Wednesday, March 1, 2023: Today on General Hospital, Obrecht is furious with both Liz and Scott, Finn offers to stand by Liz, and Sonny and Dex bond over a meal. Yes, like many Americans, I think that the US system is barbaric. Now Diane Downs did not say any of this, but told a hard to believe story, and then changed it from one to two masked guys, etc. Evidence from a ballistics expert. Her other daughter and son were severely injured. After the trial that convicted Diane Downs, Fred Hugi, the Prosecutor adopted Christie and Danny (they were in foster care for 2 years before he decided to adopt them), the two surviving children. Due process always matters. Justice is all that is left. This was the prosecution and conviction of (Elizabeth) Diane Downs who has now been incarcerated for too many years in one of Californias (overcrowded) State prisons. From what we know about Becky, she had chosen a difficult path and Diane was trying to warn her. Danny said several times that a bad man shot them and it was written in the nurses notes, but never that his mother shot him. Lack of blood spatter is not evidence of innocence Especially when a shooter is leaning in and shooting into a box (car) while standing outside. Ffs maybe u should go back to writing screenplays. In this article, we can clearly see that Becky struggled and tried to justify her woes (maybe rightly so) by blaming it on her DNA. But for what it is worth, I believe she tried to kill her 3 kids. Her family supported her. Brewer stood ready to testify in June 1991, that it was because of Prosecutor Hugis lie that he changed his mind to convict and that he alone was responsible for silencing the dissenting votes of two other jurors (Appendix 97). And the interrogations were not tapedand barelydocumented. I know that most people think she is guilty. If personal diaries were to be believed, half of the population would be in great jeopardy. The police admitting on the stand that after 2 weeks, they stopped looking at suspects appears to be a fact. At the time, among 49 prisoners denied parole, the board had given only four inmates, including Downs, a 10-year wait. Did you read her statements to the parole board in 2008? Did CK shoot at car when DD drove away? To have separated Christie from her brother and the rest of the family to be able to get her mom was unconscionable. They are the ones who supposedly (according to Diane) screwed her up so badly. Detective Antoine also performed a trace metal test on Diane I S hands to detect the presence of trace metals left after someone has touched or held something metallic like a gun (Appendix 65). But the Parole Board refused to hear her. it also isnt right that the rules get to keep being changed after the fact as far as how often one may apply for parole. Diane was found guilty and sentenced to life and she has been in prison ever since. http://www.manipulatedtrial.de/oregon_s_small_sacrifices_1603.pdf. It appeared rigged: Rigged? The best policy for Diane Downs would have been to remain silent, but she fought back and smiled at the wrong time and according to them, enjoyed the attention. Mr. But due to a law enacted in Oregon after she first became eligible for parole, she can now only apply every 10 years. Dianes father tried to hire Melvin Belli, but the judge refused to give him some time to prepare and come back to the US. All the years in prison probably made her way more disturbed than she ever was. After all, she was conditioned this way. But I think that in all fairness, many of them dont even know the details of the case and have watched Small Sacrifices instead. Mr. Downs must have had a bad feeling about Jagger because before trial, he tried to retain defense attorney Melvin Belli who had the reputation of fighting for his clients and to win all his cases. You do not debate the content of the blog which you probably did not read anyway. The kind of TV series that they produce on high profile crimes will make sure to turn public opinion. It should be illegal to use real names and facts from a criminal case while influencing the publicto falselybelieve that the whole content of the filmis true. Foote then handled the juvenile docket and first encountered Downs when he ordered her two surviving children into state protective custody. Knick never signed the premarital agreement and Diane never married him. To listen to Christies taped conversation, click below. I might not have put enough information to your liking, but I stuck to what came out at trial and not the fantasy factory coming from the state, the media and Rule. Spiritual advancement and atonement? It turned out to be a mistake because he was married to a County Circuit Court Judge who would become a colleague of Foote and he had no intention of defending Diane vigorously. I actually can relate to things she did and was like, especially chasing after a guy that dont want youi did one night stands during my chase..to try to get over himits was a dumb idea and really made things worse, but it made sense at the time. When a white attractive woman like Diane Downs appears on the scene while displaying seemingly unpleasant characteristics as a mother and a personality disorder, there is no telling what the media will do with the story. The problem with high profile cases is that the media, the DA, the cops and authors like Ann Rule dictate the narrative and it becomes almost impossible to look any other way unless you are a critical thinker devoid of emotions related to the case. 2 years in foster care waiting to be legally free for adoption is not that uncommon even today. Saying that I seem to be doing what I accuse Ann Rule of doing is kind of ironic because the point of this blog is to try to stay away from innuendo and fantasies like unicorns and songs that might have been playing or not during a tragic murder. Any thoughts on how the detectives basically made up their mind right away in spite of numerous tips coming in? Its a fact. Ann Rule did not leave a great legacy as far as honest reporting goes, and she is not the only one to have commercialized a criminal case for personal gain. Three weeks after the crime, Judge Foote from family courts, removed Danny and Christie from the care of Diane Downs and her family. After graduation, Steven joined the Navy and Diane was sent to Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College where she failed miserably at remaining pure and chaste, not unlike most girls of her generation who rejected their strict religious upbringing. When they recaptured her, she was very docile. If thats what you want then dont pretend its anything but. I mean if a guy admits to killing children over and over, shouldnt we pay attention to that? Nearly every point you make here was addressed and disproved or not even allowed into evidence. Foster Carers says either Australia or England to me. Her father also insisted shetry to help catch the shooter. A reader told me that I should have a website with all the comments. He failed. Removing the children from her and presiding over her criminal trial? And that Ann Rule took advantage of the situation to sell her book. The towel and a girl who had a stroke, was separated from her family and was constantly questioned without being recorded or accompanied by a loved one and testifying to facts that do not match the testimony of the forensic expert is not being reduced to conjecture? Teen Mom 2 alum Jenelle Evans and her mom, Barbara Evans, have been feuding over custody of Jenelle's son, Jace in addition to many other issues for over a decade. In the end, it is scary how media becomes some kind of Roman circus where people is thrown in order to become a source of business. More often than not, Christie was interviewed by State Agents (Paula Krogdahl, Paul Alton, Steve Downs and Dick Tracy) within half an hour of having her Dilantin increased. Id like to challenge some of the bloggers claims. I think you may be right that she is likely still locked up due to her diagnoses of antisocial, histrionic and narcissistic, but again, no one would care and this crappy diagnosis wouldnt have been bought and paid for if not the high profile nature of the case. And these men in black perceived this as an act of war, and proceeded to go after them with every legal or illegal means at their disposal. In reality,the whole caseturned out to beno small sacrifice for Diane Downs, but it was a huge victory for the State, the media anda very lucrative deal for theQueen of crime fiction herself; Ann Rule. The fact that the Hugis did so successfully is arguably proof of this. Many troubling elements of the case were discovered after the trial, but there was enough during the proceedings to be asking questions. It should have been investigated further. He said all the police needed was for Diane to bear witness against her ex-husband. It is beyond belief that the State of Oregon allowed the prosecutor to adopt those children. Why arent you debating the faulty ballistics, and the fact that the gun they affirmed was used in the commission of the crime was not the right one? Theybrought out the big guns to unload on the public, their idea of the truth: Diane Downs was a horrible creature and a jilted lover who shot her three children in cold blood to be free to pursue a relationship with the man she was obsessed with. Years later, seven witnesses signed affidavits telling of a man named Jim Haynes continuing confessionthat he wasthe shooter, and his appearance boresimilarities to the sketch. My beef is with the interference by the media, TV shows and Ann Rule The popular TV movie Small Sacrifices was based on Ann Rules book and it painted a horrid picture of the mother accused of shooting her children on Old Mohawk Road. I research cases that in my opinion, were poorly tried. Even on a worldwide scale, the age of accountability is considered to be twelve years old. The hell with doubts, ballistics and pesky details about the shooting, we cannot disagree becausethere is hunting and fishing to do and friendships to uphold. An attractive woman whose two children were killed in mysterious circumstances and the cops decided to go after her. I agree. The inconsistencies and obvious lack of evidence in this case should have called for a wider investigation instead of solely focusing on their prime suspect. She was harshly judged because of her demeanor. Now she claims she was dating an FBI agent at the time, was holding some top secret pictures for him, and she was on the road to meet someone to pass them off, at the instruction of her FBI boyfriend. There is absolutely no evidence that Hungry like the Wolf was playing when Christie got shot but it is another detail they added to bring a dramatic element to this trial. Foote refused 30 to 50 reports by detectives of sightings or leads about the shooter but admitted reports from people in Arizona willing to badmouth Diane. She was not given one inch of presumption of innocence. She has been denied parole 2x and is up again in 2020. Not meaning to sound disrespectful, but you seem to be doing what you accuse Ann Rule of doing. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. As far as her innocence goes and the possibility of being paroled if she admitted her crime, Diane strongly maintains her innocence. Critics said she deliberately became pregnant in order to garner sympathy from the jury. I base a lot on what I see and hear from her in her own words in footage of a 28 yr old woman. May be the guy who says he did it. It sounds pretty fair to me. I say these things if I were on the jury. We dont know what the Hugi family was doing during this time, probably seeing the kids regularly and getting licensed and approved to take the kids home with them. It became judicial kidnapping to obtain a coerced confession: inflammatory And to try not to bash Dianes Downs character and stick to evidence instead. I followed the trial. BUT the babies were put in Foster Care before any allegations were made Family has defended and backed Diane for her Innocence clearly from day one The state took them away from all family because family was and is the enemy Again I go back to how times were back then. Diane downs. The twosome first crossed paths in 2003 when Shahi. Andthe DA adopted her other two children. Diane found with him,the kind of relationship she had never known before: there was actually care and intimacy involved. but I think there are some extreme cases that knock women in a bad psychotic way that can be life threatening. Diane recanted the stories about her dad who vehemently denied them. They felt safe there. If the adult can show capacity and willingness to provide care, love and nurturing to the children, then there is no legal reason to prevent them from becoming Foster Carers. The guy should have walked away from the case or from adopting them. Thanks again. What about the terror of being interrogated by strangers and separated from her family? It deserved as much attention as a Unicorn, a song or all the other hearsay floating around because at least, they came from real people signing official documents. Crime is entertainment and big money so this case will continue to be on the forefront and the same assumptions will be repeated over and over again. She has an excellent conduct report and never reacted violently to any of the harassment from other inmates. It wasnt until Prosecutor Hugi said Dr. Jamison had labeled Diane a deviant sociopath that Mr. So many of the cases Lise writes about on this blog either have no forensic evidence that supports the verdict or have very misleading forensic evidence that may or may not support the verdict, depending on who is interpreting it. But her behavior became the most important factor in the investigation that followed. The chief prosecutor adopting the children beggars belief! Click to listen to podcast explaining the gun test, Dianes mental condition and the lack of forensic evidence. Very little is definitively known in this area. Its a dangerous proposition when a lack of due process becomes acceptable because they know she is guilty. I refer you to this section of the blog: They claimed to have found two lead cartridges in Dianes rifle at home that supposedly matched the ones used during the crime. The last time I checked, it is my website and if you find it tiresome, no one is inviting you to stay or read the content; which you evidently did not read anyway. Go to the hate groups for that. The american system often reminds me of what Charles Dickens talked about in his novels. On May 19, 1983, Diane and her kids visited a friend to look at her new horse, and then went for a drive; not at all unusual for this family not living according to middle class rules. The time was spent waiting for the clock to tick down the final seconds for all appeals to the parental termination to be allowed. The following article hopes to help you make more suitable choices and get more useful information They did a trace metal test to see if Diane had held a gun. LMFAO!!!! And the interrogations were not tapedand barelydocumented. The case was so one sided that it is about time some of us bring up the other side. They were in a difficult situation becausewithout evidence, they could notcharge her for the crime. But you are right to say that it is my site. In fact, I am surprised that people are not flabbergasted by the way this case was handled and tried and that what bothers them most is that I try to discuss it in a blog and dare defending this woman. I recently found your website and have enjoyed it a lot. He has lived a life outside the public eye and hasn't ever come out to give interviews to the media about his ex-wife. Shes where she belongs. But if you compare the time she was seen by the witness to the timing of her arrival at the hospital, it seems to indicate she went pretty fast, butnone of it was explained ordemonstrated properly. If she was the shooter, it had to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Nobody knows but her. Thats the problem with high profile cases. A conviction founded on lies is no conviction at all. Page 50 of Case History. Danny was the product of an affair. She functions best in highly structured environments where she has a sense of control. You dont get any kind of advancement or rehabilitation in prison. It wasnt until Prosecutor Hugi said Dr. Jamison had labeled Diane a deviant sociopath that Mr. I was a patient of the doctor who worked so hard to save her childrens lives that night. It was also said at trial that the shooter would have been left handed, which was not the case for Diane. I agree that the phone call from Angel was totally inappropriate. This was very stressful. http://www.dianedowns.com/Dr.%20Jamison%20affidavit.pdf. Christie could not speak but after some rehab, she said repeatedly that she did not know who shot them. In reply to Kit As her brother mentioned, it would not be that farfetched for his sister to stop for someone considering that she was a person who lacked impulse control and the era. Seeing her giggle and laugh during a videoed reconstruction gave me, as a mother, a sickening feeling. ?.the fact you are ignoring something SO OBVIOUS is a red flag. I personally disagree with that practice but it is common. How could Christie say anything but the things they told her to say with that kind of influence? And of course, she added her own brand of paranoia, which is to be expected considering her personality disorder and what she went through. Its as if they cant control it. Here are the pros and cons of sole legal custody. Is it the one you tried to use? Lori, I luv how you ended your comment Lets also remember that this is the US of A and we dont lock people up for being narcissistic, antisocial histrionic individuals. Diane asked for proof that her ex husband was behind the shooting. HUGE conflict of interest. A conviction founded on lies is no conviction at all. Page 50 of Case History Someone found guilty of a crime should have a sentence that can be served and not one that is contingent on the remorse shown. Thank you for presenting a side of the story & case apart from the usual narrative. Shes guilty. I still remember my mother picking up the paper and seeing the headline. The roller coaster ride had nothing to do with Diane s children and Diane knew it. And even when confronted by the wrongful practices used at trial to get her convicted, are ok with her being locked up for life. So it was a relentless game totry to reel her in. Around 1 in 20 residents in Arkansas and Tennessee were missed during the 2020 census, and four other U.S. states had significant undercounts of their populations which could shortchange them Most people negotiate the ups and downs of . They are the ones who considered Dianes children as, To this day, his record is mixed; his law license was suspended for, Belli filed a motion for a 2-week extension to familiarize himself with the case because he had to be in Italy, and declared Diane innocent in a press conference, but Foote denied the motion and declared . Why did CK shoot the kids multiple times and DD once? The endorsement was so strong, in fact, that some interpreted it as a roundabout trade request. Wasnt it speculative on their part? And being the mother of three only served to propel Diane in a more manic state. For all you readers of this blogger, I lived through the Diane Downs case. had to wait for Christie to be able to tell them who did it. I am not saying she is innocent. Diane described the stranger that shot them on the road and a police artist came up with a sketch. Great question. It sounds like this was not the case with Dianes children. This was all logged in Christies hospital reports and is found in the Appendix of the petition filed in Federal Court in 1996 in the section Hospital Reports.. The reason Im harsh is because Ive detected that youve paid for this site and therefore cant be wrong. Moreover, it was not a suicide case, but of a woman who supposedly shot herself in the arm and her 3 children several times. The very suspicious aspect of this ballistic saga is that Hugi said they had the bill of sale and serial number for the first Ruger and it was definitely the murder weapon. Moreover, he apparently told her that he did not want children and this statement alone would seal Dianes fate. Christie was only eight, had suffered gunshot wounds and was in shock. Otherwise you just want people to fill your echo chamber that agree with you, tell anyone else you obviously dont want to debate me.., then ban, then hope for people to agree. Do you remember probably about four or five days after So she warns her to stay away. I do not discuss her guilt or innocence because this is not what the blog is about, but I personally hope she is released one day. Ultimately, the blogger is entitled to their opinion as is everyone else. Im not saying I know for a fact in my mind shes innocentbut there is NOT enough evidence for her to be guilty. There are no facts? And the flat affect and sometimes inappropriate smiling would come with the territory so you cannot judge her actions without taking into account that she might not have been acting according to the norms. When a unicorn and hungry like the wolf make their way into a court room during a high profile trial, its a red flag. Within three weeks, Diane had lost custody of her remaining wounded children and had become the number one suspect in the eyes of the police department and District Attorneys office. This is basically the book best kept secrets in condensed form full of outlandish theories. I believe DDs case needs to be re looked at and all evidence reviewed. In Rules book, Diane is portrayed as a horrible selfish mother but her family and friends saw another version; she lovedher childrendearly and worked hard to be a good provider. You cannot skip due process because of mob mentality. Hi Nanette, it is not a matter of being gullible. She had the right to a fair trial as much as anyone else out there. No matter how much Ive read, or how many of her constant at the time interviews I watch on YouTube, the things that come from her brain to her mouth never cease to amaze me. It does not contradict what I said, but what they said. Right after the shooting, little Danny would ask the nurses, , Even Ann Rule in her book, keeps mentioning that, Every time, she said she did not know, they told her to think again and made suggestions. The woman shot her children. According to Oregon law, this would have to be supported by a psychiatrists report or a Wardens letter and Diane provided both. I worked for county government child welfare for a decade. And with hindsight, the fact that this young mother had a personality disorder probably brought a lot of drama to the mix. And Robert Knickerbocker became one of her lovers. She would have been released under strict conditions with the support of her family and under the care of a mental health specialist. And according to the law, she should have been released by now, independently of what she says or not. But they tended to ignore other important aspects. Diane had moved to Oregon only 6 weeks before the tragedy to work in the area and have her parents spend time with the kids. They were treated very badly in this matter. The children should have been receiving therapy throughout. Either way he could NOT have seen who shot him unless he has eyes in the back of his head. The diagnosis of the psychiatrist for the state is also clearly documented. And if she did it, she has served her time without displaying any violent tendencies whatsoever. It did not matter that they had no evidence; they did not like her attitude and she was going to pay for it: opinion, not fact It appeared rigged and the fact that Ann Rule sat in the courtroom ready to produce a Masterpiece of Guilt could only help the prosecution. On May 19, 1983, Elizabeth Diane Downs and her three small children were shot on a country road near Springfield, Oregon. Women who were somewhat normal begore, get pregnant, have the baby, then drown it a toilet, kill or beat the the baby in the first year..shaking or other means..its less often then notbut better believe these type of cases are reported constantly now on social media. Plus, Diane could have never cleaned her clothes and her hair to remove blood and gun powder. 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