So then what happens is fans who are biased against akainu are disappointed that WB didn't do more damage and therefore try to come up with any other reasoning besides admitting "ok this just proves how much of a beast akainu is.". Meaning that he's not what he used to be. [89], Whitebeard made many enemies over the years besides the other Emperors and the World Government. [36] In addition, Whitebeard took full responsibility for the actions of his crew and kept a stern outward appearance for non-crew members, falsely claiming to outsiders that he ordered Ace to hunt down Blackbeard. [63], Aside from their own 1600-member crew,[67] the Whitebeard Pirates had many subordinate crews working in the New World. As others said, Akainu melted part of his face. The same guy who was beating ace in his sleep was stabbed by a sneak attack from squardo he sais it himself i cant be the strongest forever. Titles are titles. Akainu believes that families are defined by blood, and is disgusted by the Whitebeard Pirates's familiar bond between themselves, and openly mocks and belittles this, while calling the Whitebeard Pirates following of their late captain's last order to escape as being hypocritical. [79] After showing his fierce tenacity, Luffy had managed to gain Whitebeard's respect. For more information, please see our Akainu stomps now 10%. Whitebeard was very careful about choosing a person to be included in his crew, depending on their personality and nature. [63], Whitebeard was well aware of Oden's strength and entrusted him with the command of the second division. Due to being an orphan who grew up in poverty, Newgate had a strong desire for a family, which he saw as the greatest treasure one could have. whitebeard getting impaled doesn't matter. He didn't need time to do jack shit, he was put out of action, screaming, bleeding and coughing up blood. 1. Whitebeard and Roger clash with Haki-imbued weapons. Although Whitebeard advised him not to venture into the hunt for Teach, Ace left without permission and, in the end, Whitebeard took responsibility for Ace's mistakes without hesitation by going to Marineford to save him from execution. Ace takes a devastating attack from akainu through his torso, which soon leads to his tragic death. /s. Whitebeard kills Akainu->Aokiji becomes Fleet Admiral assuming Sengoku still steps down->Marines do not militarize as much->Marines are weaker than they are now (possibly no military draft, leading to Gion-Tokikake-Kizaru as 3 admirals)->One of them gets sent to Dressrosa (unlikely that any Warlord renouncing their title wouldn't get someone sent Whitebeard wielded a gigantic naginata called Murakumogiri, one of the 12 Supreme Grade Blades. @stealthgrey: Akainu Hakai>>>>Current Luffy Haki, mening luffy can't damage him just like WB commanders couldn't and Both where using Haki here and Akainu no sells it post WB Fight, Kaido and Akainu is a split fight too but Akainu should have the edge due to his DF and skills. Some major matines would have died including blackbeard. Later, in Episode 507, when Usopp dropped a newspaper covering the aftermath of the war, Whitebeard's body was shown to match the manga's depiction as opposed to the anime's censorships: his torso had swords sticking out, he was posed to make it looks like a portion of his head was torn off, and the gaping hole on his stomach that Akainu inflicted on him in the anime was missing, leaving only the hole in his upper chest. [39] When confronted by Blackbeard, he intended to avenge Thatch, despite being close to death at the time. He liberated and protected Fish-Man Island from slavery, an act which touched the hearts of the normally human-distrusting citizens of Ryugu Kingdom and invested the majority of his riches to support his homeland of Sphinx, an once poor, lawless island. Edward Newgate vs. Sakazuki (after the death of Ace). Remember when Crocodile fought mihawk and came out unscathed? We also know that he is sick as well. He was not ashamed of this wish, which was considered strange and humorous among his pirate peers. Whitebeard was mostly annoyed with Shiki's ramblings at the time, but seemingly knew he had something planned, being familiar with the Golden Lion's penchant for schemes. Imagine if Katakuri had defeated Luffy after just two attacks, or if Luffy had defeated Doffy in just two attacks after going G4. However, Kaidou saw an opportunity to eliminate his adversary prior to the impending Summit War of Marineford and did not hesitate to attempt to do so. Like here. [111] During the Summit War of Marineford Newgate's health was declining at a rapid rate due to his refusal to go into battle with life support and medication, despite this he was able to engage in combat with Aokiji,[112] Kizaru,[113] and Akainu[23] on even terms. [102], Under normal circumstances, they did not provoke each other. In addition, this dude incurs the ultimate wrath of Whitebeard after killing Ace, but still manages to take out half of Whitebeard's face before "losing" to him in a battle that results in his complete and utter incapacitation after the Waroh wait, nevermind, Akainu is still completely able-bodied and functional after being quaked into the ground and then quaked mid-air at point blank range. Akainu attempted to manipulate Squard to betray Whitebeard. Heck whitebeard got stabbed by squard before he even got to akanui. [7][109] Due to his incredible strength he was already feared as the "Strongest Man in the World", before Roger's death and the start of Great Age of Pirates. Akainu and Whitebeard carried Marineford Arc Mawt Well-Known Member Sep 6, 2022 #2 Akainu had an impressive performance, but for some reason his fans will omit that WB had already gotten impaled numerous times by fodder (as well as the initial stab from Squardo) and the dude basically had a heart attack mid fight. [103], Whitebeard considered Kaidou a powerful and fearsome pirate and for this, he chose not to march into Wano Country to wage war against his crew just to avenge Oden's death, knowing that it would cause many casualties.[64]. WB in a hard fight 31%. Whitebeard first became aware of Portgas D. Ace while the latter was still a rookie, being curious and impressed by the rapid growth and progress of the youngster's career as a pirate captain. In the anime, there were no swords at all in his body. Akainu is just that strong. I mean we all know WB could have just been like "fuck it" and sink the whole island, but all of his crew would have been wiped at that moment. Due to his age and worsening health, it was not as powerful compared to his prime, but he could still negate the intangibility of Logia-based Devil Fruits. It would be underwhelming, stupid, and it wouldn't make sense given the context of the story. [41], This was not blind loyalty, as Whitebeard was willing to go to war with the World Government to save Ace. Wow, one of the best written statements I've seen about Akainu's power. One Piece: 5 Ways The Time-Skip Improved The Story (& 5 Things The Original Timeline Does Better) It just showcased the difference in their powers. Whitebeard considered every single member of his crew, as well as his subordinate crews, his "sons". Akainu no-diffed Ace and made sure Whitebeard does not get out of Marinefod alive, even though whitebeard won the short term fight, akainu did the most damage in the long term, he was the one who gave the death blow to whitebeard with the inugami guren ability, even if blackbeard never came whitebeard would still have passed away from that later, while akainu himself regenerated back due to his logia devil fruit, so we could say that akainu mid-diffed whitebeard, since akainu himself did not went all out either and he was ambushed as well, if this was fleet admiral akainu he would solo any yonko, he has become unstoppable after the 3D2Y arc, Low diff no. Poll Rematch: Prime Whitebeard vs Admiral Akainu (117 votes) Newgate quakes Sakazuki's magma *ss low diff 68%. [24] However, for the entire 72 years that he lived, he had never once received a wound on his back because he never ran away from his battles. Eddie Goes Hollywoodhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOr7qhpetK6BXjz2_N6-1mw . As Rayleigh said it doesn't matter even if you have magma body, haki can counter it, and seastone bullets are their kryptonite, and now that Luffy has unlocked advanced conquerors, something all the Marines feared about him..finally came true it was only a matter of time. It's really disappointing but oh well. Whitebeard infusing Murakumogiri with Haoshoku Haki. Yeah, he got hit multiple time and spit some blood and all but this is one piece and characters can endure much more. That just goes to show the amount of damage these guys can take. Pretty much, Oda made sure the marines looked as good as possible that arc. [1], He wore a black bandanna around his head and adorned himself with a white captain's coat, which hung loosely from his broad shoulders and bore his Jolly Roger symbol. His biggest nerf was that whitebeard cared about casualties, whereas akainu thinks that the endgoal excuses everything. For more information, please see our He left the command vacant for a long time also after his departure, since he had not received any news of his death until several years after it happened. Whitebeard was stated to be much weaker at Marineford due to his illnesses and old age. Later in the manga, however, this was changed to red. [15], Whitebeard was an abnormally large man, with a height of 666cm (21'10"). He is the current fleet admiral of the Marines, giving him absolute power over the entire organization. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Oda had to nerf whitebeard otherwise the outcome would be different. You have to consider that Whitebeard was definitely severely weakend and dying from his condition and just fragility from old age in general. When he was a child, he had a much smaller and less well-crafted spear made up of a simple knife bound to a pole. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. [114], Whitebeard's reputation alone made his simple declaration of Fish-Man Island being his territory enough to keep slave traders and pirates from attacking the island further, making Whitebeard himself far more effective than the treaty signed with the World Government 200 years before his death. Whitebeard was a brief member of the Rocks Pirates for a certain period of his life, specifically until the God Valley Incident, when the crew met its downfall. And despite all this, his proud back, over the course of his entire life as a pirate, never received a single scar from running away! Yeah you are right expect that whitebeard was a dying old man right from the Start of marineford. [161] A 9" figure was featured as part of the Figuarts ZERO One Piece series. 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