I am slowly dying from AO and my country has once again tried to spit on me. Local boards called men classified 1-A, 18-1/2 through 25 years old, oldest first. Im sure the Agent Orange was the cause of most health issues. Some may have escaped the digs and harsh words and that is good but make no mistake those things did happen. We returned back to NY on Jan. 2, 1968. I would like to see the source for this estimate that there are only 850,000 Vietnam Veterans still alive. So it is not so much the numbers as the age at which Vietnam Veterans pass on to glory. Lost a friend after a going away party when he took one last flight the day after the party. i was as directly involved in the fighting as anyone else in e-troop. Did you know that is the day Ho Chi Minh died? (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. One tactic employed was the use of booby traps, and to this day, there are several tunnels and ambushes that have been preserved. If you read the Taps in their mag there seems to be an alarming rate of NamVets dying in theirlate fifties and early sixties. Food for thought. The collective emotion of the country was divided, says Jerry Lembke, a Vietnam veteran, sociologist and author of The Spitting Image: Myth, Memory, and the Legacy of Vietnam. What amazes me however is that so many of my comrades who served in Vietnam and who suffer from many of the maladies associated with this war would serve again. I found out he was on the plane behind me after roll call satin the rain and mud Just a note of trivia. Were going to demand an official review to a hearings officer. Then ask, Do you think I might have been affected by this ambiguity between grounded reality in the tri canopy jungle and political reality at home which was counter to the troops welcome return (sarcasm). Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The following are some Their is a ton of it online everywhere. I received a memo from the Virginia VA dated March 9, 2010 stating that although VA was required to publish the new regulation by March 12, 2010 (in accordance with the Agent Orange Act of 1991 stipulating timeframes for action), VA would be unable to meet that date. Yer pal, Ferraeri Bubba. Since 9/11, patriotic gestures, like wearing flag pins and saying, Thank you for your service, have become common, as more troops are sent to Iraq and Afghanistan. statistics that are at once depressing yet in a larger sense should give you a HUGE SENSE OF PRIDE. i forgot to mention in my above comment,that i was in the first infantry division,(the big red one),charlie company,2nd battalion,16th infantry regiment,rangers,in vietnam. Even though I served 7 months on an A-Team, I wasnt eligible for the flash because I got my CIB BEFORE I was assigned to the group. Veterans returning from Vietnam were met with an institutional response marked by indifference. You must be at least 17 years old (17-year-old applicants require parental consent). Two things I have to add, one is that many Viet Nam Veterans died in the line of duty as Law Enforcement Officers (odmp.org) and that as a police officer I was not prone to PTSD , I hope more were like me. Rather than being greeted with anger and hostility, however, most Vietnam veterans received very little reaction when they returned home. Vietnam Veterans of America/ Vietnam Veterans Die Early/ Epidemiology for Vietnam Veterans/ Agent Orange Deaths, http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/c2kbr-22.pdf, http://edschultz.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=63544, http://web.mac.com/rthorne2/Site/TRUTH_REVEALED_MINISTRY.html, Transcendental Meditation Retreat At Picture Rocks Retreat House, Veterans Across America Black Out Walmart Black Thursday. Please post the SOURCE of this statistic. Can you provide more information on this? "It was surprising," he said, stressing the preliminary results could include false positives and that the research is ongoing. By then, patients are often in tremendous pain, with just a few months to live. Everything else is pure bullshit..1969-1970 GRUNT 11 bravo in the jungle..and damn PROUD of itSCREW ALL THE FAKERSNO MAN ENOUGH TO BE TRUE. Age: 75. I went fucking ballistic. Jerry Engel/New York Post Archives/NYP Holdings, Inc./Getty Images, The society really was ill-prepared to give these guys what they deserved, says Christian Appy, professor of History at the University of Massachusetts Amherst and author of three books on Vietnam. thanks rich. I am an in country vet and 59 years old, your article wasvery informative. Jim and I flew from Da Nang, to Kadena Okinawa, and then after an attempt to fly out of Kadena in a Flying Tiger Line plane one of the 4 engines quit in mid-air, and we made an emergency landing back at Kadena, we stayed overnight and flew out in the same repaired airplane on to Travis A.F. Good luck and take care -Jim. Vallo Sit in a barbers chair, and let another person cut my hair. Just finished writing a book about an incident in Vietnam that tells a story about how twisted and asymmetric that war was. Queleparece is a website that writes about many topics of interest to you, a blog that shares knowledge and insights useful to everyone in many fields. He was the youngest American service member to be killed in the Vietnam War. Needless to say neither of us flew again after that, he is 100% PTSD . Do you think there shouldnt be any baggage there? Over time, swelling and inflammation of the bile duct can lead to cancer. Hey Mike: We Cold War vets that were stationed in-country, posted in HeilbronnGermany in the 1950s that were proudly servingas part ofthe Alpiners of the502nd ASA Group, gathering intel from those godless, heathen East Germans and Soviets, had their share of hardships too. I feel confident they will take care of you now. civilian world and create a new life for ourselves. at the time i wasnt concerned, though, some of the guys working as fos, who were planning on a military career, were trying to get cibs. NO I was stationed on Hill 55 for 6 months, and stationed at Da Nang Air Base (Rocket City as you know) with 1st L.A.A.M. Roughly 300-thousand veterans have died from Agent Orange exposure -- that's almost five times as many as the 58-thousand who died in combat. (Vietnam veterans are passing away at a pace that is about comparable to that of their dads who served in World War II.) We saved a lot of people and seen some bad stuff. The Vietnam War lasted from 1964-1973the longest war in American history until it was overtaken by the one in Afghanistanand servicemen typically did one-year tours of duty. I took her to Punchbowl and then she understood. 1,713,823 of those who served in Vietnam were still alive as of August, The past 5 years has seen a ton of so called veteran statistics that are clearly confabulated. The Department of Veterans Affairs this spring commissioned a small pilot study to look into the link between liver flukes ingested through raw or undercooked fish and a rare bile duct cancer. I take ware hearing aids and to this day Im always vigilant when Im out always Still listen to 1960s rocknroll and those songs take me back to the Mekong Delta As of the year 2015, around 1,600 of those individuals were still considered unaccounted for. The Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency (DPAA), which is part of the United States Department of Defense, reports that there were a total of 687 American prisoners of war who survived the Vietnam War. Some of the responses did not come through our site in a timely fashion. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. The Vietnam veterans, we couldnt believe it. Listed here are the four Vietnam veterans with the youngest ages. i mention the verified stressers, as i wonder if that could help in the decision on a cib. I do know this. Sleep well brother. Twice a week we compile our most fascinating features and deliver them straight to you. I too have found the Veterans War Museum to be a bit odd at times. in only 6-10 years.. *STATISTICS FOR INDIVIDUALS IN UNIFORM AND IN COUNTRY VIETNAM VETERANS: * This figure far exceeded the expected suicide ratio when balanced by demographics and applied to ONLY those that had served in country. good info on your post, keep up the good work! I hope you all know that if you were in country and have diabetes you are basically automatically qualified for soem degree of compensation their is a presumptive connection as there is with various cancers. 18 years old I would learn about civilian life 46 months later. Although I have to plan most everything I do so as to avoid the things that still bother me..-I started looking up my VN buddies a few years ago,, so far Ive located 10 men that was in my CompanyTalk to them on a regular basis.Bad part is that out of the 10 men 7 of us have major mental and physical problems. I found out later after I got up that it was someone down the hall from me that shot himself. How the hell can anyone answer this question? An overwhelming majority of Vietnam Veterans are male (6.2M) while in the civilian populaon females (47.7M) outnumber males by 20.5M. Give me a week. EM Club after that, I never saw Walker again. Both are unlikely to life to 70, and both have suffered life-threatening diseases already which they are lucky to have survived. THERS IS ONLY ONE KIND OF COMBAT VET..ONEWHOWAS IN COMBAT. What seeds should I start indoors in February. The federal agency sent its sympathies but no money. There is always the notable distinction between Era Vets and Combat Veterans. The latter group does in fact have an uncommonly high mortality rate, that includes approximately 115, ooo suicides between 1969 and 1989. American soldiers returning home from Vietnam often faced scorn as the war they had fought in became increasingly unpopular. ive always just repied yes, and left it at that. How Many Veterans Are Enrolled In College? It is anticipated that the overall number of veterans would fall from 20.0 million in the year 2017 to 13.6 million in the year 2037. It is believed that less than 850,000 of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam are still living today; the age of the youngest American Vietnam veteran is around 60 years old. Strapped to a gurney in a retrofitted bus, Wowwk and other wounded servicemen felt excitement at being back on American soil. About 30 percent of Vietnam vets have had PTSD in their lifetime, the highest rate among veteran groups from all eras, according to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs' National Center for PTSD. It can take decades for symptoms to appear. i got sent to viet nam in the spring of 71 and came back in the spring of 72. my mos was 82c20, surveyor. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? As of 2015 approximately 16,000 17-year-olds were being enlisted annually. Scientific Wild Ass Guess. 2023 A&E Television Networks, LLC. As a cohort, Vietnam veterans were met with none of the fanfare and received none of the benefits bestowed upon World War IIs greatest generation.. losing nearly 711,000 between 95 and 00. As a combat veteran of Marine Corps having served in Vietnam, I have always known that we seem to have a mortality clock that ticks a bit faster than then that of the standard for insurance actuaries. Mike you write well and to get to core issues. for years, all I asked for was a good nights sleep. I came home in 69, my hair fell our,got big pustuals on my back, and skin problems immediately. Same goes with the SF flash. Sorry about the delay here in answering. After reading your article, were lucky to have him. Weve used them up we need young ones. Less than half of them submitted claims for service-related benefits, mostly because they were not aware of a possible connection to Vietnam. But no one spoke of the incident, nor was the media permitted to cover it as WE did not have missiles yet and did not want to alarm the public. What is the average age of a Vietnam veteran today? returned from Vietnam , the clock has been ticking. Greensburg, Indiana, U.S. Garwood was transferred to North Vietnam in 1969, and according to reports, he was freed in 1973 along with the other American prisoners of war as part of the Paris Peace Accords. 390 deaths Considering the kind of information available about the death rate of WWII and Korean War Veterans, publicized information indicates that in the last 14 years Vietnam veterans are dying at the rate of 390 deaths each day. Somethings Ill never do: It was apparently based on an estimate that 800,000 Vietnam-era veterans had died by 2000. Be careful of Appeals. 1 just disappeared, and then theres me. and were sometimes in more combat during their tour than the actual grunts they supported they still werent awarded the CIB. After all these past years, Ive never left country,took me years to live again. He lived for three days after that incident. id like to comment on the stastistics of our vietnam veteran death rate of 390 vets die every day.i think thatthedeath rate of vietnam veterans,are higher thanthe any other war veterans.i think that our fight wasnt just in vietnam,but after we got home.that took a heavy tole on us.and still is.God bless our verterants, john j. lang. Do you have any statistics on how many of the so called BWN vets are coming down with AO related presumptive diseases. I always say welcome home to a vietnam vet. Pretty hard to quantify those one car accidents at 2am, from the smell of diesel. How old would the youngest Vietnam vet be now? Often asked: What To Say In A Letter To A Veteran? Known as the Sky Soldiers, the 173rd Airborne Brigade is an airborne infantry brigade combat team (IBCT) of the United States Army that is stationed in Vicenza, Italy. Stay alive & sane thanks to Valium I am still alive for now NOT from the V.A., I use my own Doctor. 1/3rd of all the U.S. Vets who served in VietNam ?!?!? How long did a soldier have to serve in Vietnam? 2017 Report on Race and Ethnicity 624,000 during World War II and throughout the Korean Conflict 1,475,000 Vietnam Era 6,651,000 0 2 4 6 8 10 2017 2022 2027 2032 2037 Millions World War Two Conflict in Korea Vietnam Era Gulf War Era. My room mate was nick named Budda in the 134th. The Department of Veterans Affairs estimates that there are roughly 7.2 million living veterans in the world today. http://edschultz.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=63544, MY MINISTRY: http://web.mac.com/rthorne2/Site/TRUTH_REVEALED_MINISTRY.html, De Nomie, William D. Sgt. not too many left, Vietnam Veterans Dying Breed. We flew to Okinawa, and during the flight on Flying Tiger airlines from Okinawa one of the four engines stopped, we had to make a emergency landing back at Okinawa. And I believe the qualifier thereis that many were claiming to be combatvets when in reality the ratio of logistics to grunts was about 9:1 therefore the large number suggested was true Vietnam Veterans, just not combat vets. . from actual combat vets but dont know that for a fact in any case that does seem rather high. Patsy T. Mink, (U.S. House of Rep-Hawaii) get honored with a burial in Punchbowl. In popular culture, the stereotype of the broken, homeless Vietnam vet began to take hold thanks to films like The Deer Hunter (1978), Coming Home (1978) and First Blood (1982). Crazy shit. I was spat on in Chicago in Lincoln Park in 1969. Then compare that report to the Tripler Psychologist report of a (get this) 5 minute interview. What percentage of Vietnam veterans actually saw combat? I found out later Mike. No it does not mean that you are not a combat veteran. Especially if you are happily married. Sen Jim Webb when he was Secretary of the Navy wrote an excellent article how the media, and in some cases the goverment gave birth to the myth that all Nam vets were in some way impaired or Rambos waiting to happen. He was among those who got the call. They cannot deny your ISD. Born: 09/15/1946. The figure that floats around alot and that Vet Centers sometimes mention is about 111,ooo from 1973 to 1997. He now gets about $3,100 a month and says he's relieved to know his wife will continue to receive benefits after he dies. How old did you have to be to be drafted in Vietnam? to indicate what they want but I do have to believe that these may be close 800k approx left, sort of sobering uh. Might any of our readers speculate about why this may be? Like I always said .we died in Nam , just havent fallen over yet.Too bad all the imposters dont die just as quick or quicker. Dan Bullock (December 21, 1953 June 7, 1969) was a United States Marine and the youngest U.S. serviceman killed in action during the Vietnam War, dying at the age of 15. Twenty-one-year-old Steven A. Wowwk arrived as an infantryman in the Armys First Cavalry Division in Cam Ranh Bay, Vietnam in early January 1969 to fight in an escalating and increasingly unwinnable war. that stuff got into everything -even breathing it in did a # on everyone that is how the guys in the navy got it. statistics that are at once depressing yet in a larger sense should give you a HUGE SENSE OF PRIDE. The aircraft ( helicopter ) went down experiencing mechanical problems. There is no way that 69% of those who served are now dead, as is easily noted by the unit reunions that occur and the personal circle of other vets than many vets have. Mike: Served in the 5th SFGA 4th ID, and E/20th Inf from 69-71; went from E1 to E6 all in the 11B series. Vietnam veterans are reaching a point in their lives where they may be retired, losing the past support systems of family and friends, susceptible to depression and prime candidates for. Thank You. I am rated 100% disabled and damn happy to be privileged and capable of pushing out this small Blog. served in-country . 101st Airborne 1971 They were not necessarily looking for a parade, but they were certainly looking for basic human support and help in readjusting to civilian life after this really brutal war.. does not receiving a cib mean im not a combat vet? What amazes me however is that so many of my comrades who served in Vietnam and who suffer from many of the maladies associated with this war would serve again. As of the last Census taken during August, 2000, the surviving U.S. But for claims, I have found the DAV (I have to join) to be a real kick ass outfit. She was right. Have you tried to apply? what does that tell u? FACT CHECK: We strive for accuracy and fairness. If you have a CIB, you do not need to verify stressors, so call the 1-800-827-1000 and tolerate the voice promptings/menu. The figures reported here (and the same text is widely seen) are all correct with one major exception. Showing So long ago-time tames the memories and makes them Kind!!!! Cheers. And approximately 164,000 Americans who served at sea in Vietnam waters are alive today. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? Ant help would be greatly appreciated. Combat Medic The 173rd Infantry Brigade was activated in 1915 and served in World War II. 1995 (census figures). Heres the rub. I have a few observations, but I will let you all go first. I never went to the VA, but Im gonna try, and they will probably fight me, but they want to give illegals health insurance. ps We were driving home from the airport when I heard the news. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? But he remains angry that other veterans' last days are consumed by fighting the same government they went to war for as young men. Ach, the memories. Mike 520-360-6933. C.I.B. WWII and Korean War vets. It got too overwhelming for me, there were so MANY. They are getting old, as time passes away from history those part of it become history themselves. information Im used to reading about WWII and Korean War vets. Thanks for your attention to this subject. They may look appealing but can actually take up to 5 years to schedule a hearing. What does it mean to give someone their flowers while they live? I am asking for a Decision Review Officer Hearing. Im a Life member of VVA, DAV and AMVETs; spend almost two years in Vet Nam as Medic with 145th Avn Btn AND 11th ARVN Airborne Brigade. I guess its a compliment to us allthat all these wannabees are prentnding to be vets but I still get pizzed at them when I figure them out after a few beers in a bar or whatever. 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