Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr Mine has a 30 Rock Creek. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm WSM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.860", maximum case length 2.100". for their 7mm SAUM with a 140 grain bullet. 8.7 twist 5R and 180 JLKs couldnt consistently make it to 100 past 3Kfps. A 24" nosler should still outrun a 24" rem mag (all other things equal). By 1,000 yards the PRC has nearly a 2-foot drop advantage and 14-inch windage advantage. Few, if any, cartridges shoot as flat and hit as hard at distance as the 7mm Weatherby. ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass. The 7mm SAUM is an ideal cartridge for long-range competition and long-range hunting. ( They are sitting on the shelf waiting , though.) ADG 7 SAUM Brass. Nosler told me their bonded bullet is designed to retain 70%, same as the partition. Reloading the 28 is also not inexpensive. I'm pushing the 175 eldx at 3005 fps, with excellent case life (10+ reloads). The Hodgdon technicians used Winchester cases and primers to develop their loads, and they were chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. Of course, you can exactly match 7mm ballistics with a .308 bullet if BC and MV are identical. These drawings will be incorporated during the next revision of the relevant SAAMI Standard. The maximum load for that bullet is 61.5 grains of H4350 powder, which yields a MV of 3133 fps at a chamber pressure of 61,900 psi. Yes, the .28 Nosler wins the ballistic competition with the RUM right on its heels. If you compare Nosler .280 AI brass vs. Nosler 7SAUM brass, you get twice the cases (50) with the .280 AI for only $10 more than what it costs for 25 cases of 7mm SAUM. performance without stepping up to a full magnum length cartridge and rifle action was Noslers goal. I have hunted with a 7mm Rem Mag and a 7mmSTW. .280 AI hands-down. The 28 Nosler uses .284 diameter bullets while the 300 Win Mag uses larger .308 bullets. Mag. 7mm PRC vs 28 Nosler The 28 Nosler shoots at faster muzzle velocities, but is an overbore cartridge that requires a very long chamber, with the Hornady hype behind the 7mm PRC, brass and ammo should be much more readily available soon enough. Remington claims a MV of 3175 fps and ME of 3133 ft. lbs. First, thanks to OP for starting this Thread and to everyone for posting. Assuming that would be as illogical as assuming the 30-06 Springfield, 308 Winchester, and 223 Remington are strictly military cartridges. factory 7mm Rem. All the info in that thread made my decision for me. Another indicates 74-grains of Hodgdon 870 will churn up 2,954 fps. And thats part of the reason 7mms are so popular. I like the 6.5 PRC because I think ammo/brass will have more staying power where the 7mm SAUM is all but obsolete (don't stone me for that). Hper du kan nyte shoppingen din her! It may not display this or other websites correctly. The resulting reservoir holds 77 grains of water with a 175-grain bullet seated to Over-All Cartridge Length (measured base to tip of bullet.). . To help you understand the flow of energy, check out the chart-. If you're only going to be shooting 160's, I think the regular 7 Rem Mag would definitely be a more economical choice. #7mm #longrangeshooting #extremelongrange All of the figures from both companies were developed in 24 inch test barrels. Remington claims that the ballistics of the 7mm SAUM equal those of the popular 7mm Rem. The first question you have to ask when designing a new cartridge is, "WHY?" The 7LRM (Long Range Magnum) is a non-belted case that has the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag with a standard magnum case head. We're doing break in on it tomorrow. Read Next: Small Calibers for Big Game. Barrel life will also be lower than the other two. The 7mm PRC in center is the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag and achieves the same muzzle velocities, but does so in a fatter case with no belt. Howdy. The most common comparison is 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag, because they're both popular in North America and are kissing cousins as far as bullet diameter goes. And the accuracy with both powders was great as well. Some of these new cartridges are appealing, I dont think Ill change however. Copyright 2004, 2013 by Chuck Hawks. 7mm Rem. Hornady 7mm PRC overall length matches that of the 30-06 and 270 Win., so it fits standard length actions. Absolutely nothing special or difficult about reloading belted cases. Said barrels will also be throated long enough for seating such bullets above the powder reservoir. $89.95. I have a 7 LRM in a DTA, I've been pretty happy with it. RDF, or Bergers 190-gr. . The 175 ELDX load Ive been using is so good no reason to try newer powders or bullets. .672., MV 2,900 fps. Links to technical data and drawings for the newly SAAMI accepted Cartridge and Chamber designs not yet included in SAAMI Standards are listed below. $120.95. Mag. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Full-magnum action long. If your just hunting without extended range sessions I'g use this over the 7rem mag. Copyright Ron Spomer Outdoors document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) Mag. I also use and like my .284 Win on a long action. $81.95. ABLR in the 28 Nosler. A barrel shot out for target competition might remain more than accurate enough for big game hunting. The 7max performance that Rich advertises is somewhat inflated and HOT loadings. JavaScript is disabled. Diver160651 Who cares. The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsjust faster. Those are some impressive numbers. All rights reserved. We are now conversant in 6mm, 6.5mm, 7.62mm and especially 7mm. I didnt have any problems finding reloading supplies. The shot prior a half grain less powder had minimal pressure signs. I dont reload but i see this statement a lot. at the muzzle. 7mm brass is simple to find and the caliber is an absolute hammer on deer/elk. Buy Now. Hodgdon reloading data for the 7mm WSM shows that the 140 grain Nosler Partition spitzer bullet can be driven to a MV of 2979 fps in front of 58.0 grains of H4350 powder. I tested the 7 STW, 7 RUM, 7 Rem mag, 7-300 win mag and even a 7 Lapua. I run the Berger 180 hybrids at 2900 in my 280 ackley with no pressure signs. If the muzzle energy is higher, it will leave the bullet with higher energy. Less well known in the U.S. (but more ballistically advanced) was the 7mm Weatherby Magnum from the early 1940s. And most of the recent data for the rum is also on the weak side. FWIW, the LRM setup that I have on the way was ordered with 16x-class projectiles in mind. Trustpilot. Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. Has 260 rounds on it so its fully sped up. You say it's long action. Both are great rounds. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Nosler brass also undergoes the rigorous quality control that premium Nosler bullets have experienced for over 60 years. Should be 7.5lbs scoped or so. Buy Now. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. Lots of hiking, backpacking, climbing, shooting to 450 yards, maybe 500 yards. Despite all this powder volume, reloading guides all indicate the 7mm RUM tops out at around 3,150 fps with a 26-inch barrel, slightly slower than the .28 Nosler. haha The good part is it's kinda hard to go wrong these days being there are so many great choices. Going to a 28-inch barrel provides more volume for burning those big doses of slow-burning powder, adding 50 to perhaps 100 fps to 26-inch barrel velocities. Short, light barrels just dont do justice to high temperature, high velocity, high pressure, overbore magnum cartridges. The 280AI is a great cartridge, as is the plain old 280 Remington. That was the 7x57mm re-branded for the non-metric British Rigby rifle. 195s topped out @ 2950 w/ N570 using a drop tube to fit powder, that primer pocket was loose after. If you go the Nosler route, look into the freebore for the barrel. The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. Minuteman. Everyone who knows what they're doing headspaces off of the shoulder anyways, and you should not be doing load development with virgin cases, you want to fire form them first so the belt is a moot point. There are now at least 14 7mm cartridges being manufactured in the U.S. with several wildcats waiting in the wings. The only advantage I'd see with the SAUM is using a short action. You must log in or register to reply here. Clearly Hornady wasnt trying to break any speed records with the 7 PRC. Neither caught on, but American shooters were certainly beginning to recognize the potential for 7mm cartridges. Actually just today finally found a Redding type s die seton stock. Typical 140- to 175-grain, .284 slugs are wide enough to resist bending (a problem Bell had with tough, thick elephant bones) yet narrow enough to minimize drag. Never saw the need for the added horse power of the 7 STW so I sold it and stayed with the 7 mm Rem Mag. I can't tell you how many cartridge choices I've settled on, only to change my mind again and again. Buy Now. As mentioned above, one of the nice things about the 7RM is factory ammo is plentiful and fairly inexpensive. Mine shoots factory 160 class ammo at 1/2 MOA (5 & 10 shot groups) in the mid 2900s with SD in the mid teens. The 404 Jeffery sired the majority of Nosler's cartridge line, namely the 30 Nosler, 26 Nosler, and 33 Nosler as well as other cartridges like the 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum (SAUM). Great case design, great bc bullets available, more efficient powder burn than most 7mm cartridges, low recoil, and very very accurate. I have a variety of options on this, as I am planning to do this on a DTA, for which I have both .535 and .585 bolts, and the DTA mags are pretty generous in regard to OAL. Now I am waffling between the 6.5x284 Norma and the 300 PRC. High-velocity cartridges are high velocity for a reason. Reloder 33, 7mm RUM 3,150 fps from 26 bl. Looking at going with the 7mag or 28 nosler. I love my 7 SAUM and would do it again. I'd opt for the 7RM. Its a criterion 26 barrel. Thanks. My 28 will not blow the door of the 7 MAX which is why I did not rechamber a 28, I want more accurate load life and no chasing lands around for only a little gain on the very end of trajectory. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. Im in the market to start a new build. Mag. Going to be used from antelope to elk. My Saum is on a med length action and was a full tilt everything I wanted build. I like off the shelf ammo and its 7 mag, 28 Nosler, 7mm-08 and the 280. Trustpilot. ADG 300 Rem Ultra Mag Brass. I don't feel the need to give up barrel life (it may be a hunting rifle but I still practice with it) for a marginal increase in speed, as well as more powder and more expensive brass. But they didnt shorten anything. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Straight on shot into chest between the legs at about 50 yds. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. Im using Winchester brass, and it's showing no signs of wear after 8 or 9 reloads. But if your wanting the long action anyway, I'd go with the 280ai. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr . For really light and a short action if you reload 7 saum. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data. I'm not too familiar with the 7LRM, but I'm having a 28 Nosler built for hunting. Buy Now. $120.95. The 28 Nosler has a muzzle energy of 3470 ft-lbs, and the 30 Nosler has muzzle energy at 3639 ft-lbs. If barrel quality is equally consistent, run-of-the-mill accuracy should exceed that of most rifles chambered for older 7mm cartridges. But if you want to win long range target competitions, the 7 PRC is your best bet. I have a 6.5 saum that is my go to long range coues rifle and it is my favorite rifle but not my first choice for an elk cartridge. Considering the production by Hornady of 6.5 GAP 4S cases, the next logical step appeared to be ammunition coming off the line in Grand Island, Nebraska. Part of this is due to the .40 inches of freeborn Remington builds into its 7mm RUMs to minimize chamber pressures on ignition. Instead, the Hornady-developed RCM case was used to produce the 6.5 PRC. Retumbo. A major part of that depends on rifling twist. But if you are only going to shoot the 160's you may be ok with SAAMI spec'd chamber. 7RM!! Run 230-240 freebore this will work for 180eldm, 184, 190,195 Bergers. If you were to blow the taper out to .010" and add-in a 40-degree shoulder, you would only gain 1.9 grains of case capacity. I already have a few 264 caliber rifles. LRHTB. Nonetheless, it's nice to have options Having so many options these days is a double edged sword. Ryan Pierce is a gunsmith, Piercison Rifles, and he is the first person I saw that was playing with the extra freebore. I also see the counter that belted cases are reloaded just like non belted and it is a non issue. They explain in part the enduring popularity of the 7mm Rem. Nosler AccuBond Long Range. I wanted an every day backpacking Coues rifle that could do sheep, bears, caribou, goats and the occasional backpacking elk hunt if needed. Smaller-framed or young shooters generally consider the cartridge as having high recoil, but its recoil is manageable for experienced large-framed shooters to be able to shoot it regularly. make ideal whitetail and mule deer takers with 140-to 160-grain bullets. It's often put head-to-head with other popular calibers like the 7mm Rem. might not sound like a big deal until you start maneuvering it in and out of cases, trucks, scabbards, and forests. The 7mm Remington Mag generates significant recoil of 22.15 ft-lbs at 13.32 fps. The .28 Nosler of 2015 was their solution. Clear winner. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Recoil with a brake should be not bad at all even with the light rifle. In older reloading books for the 7 rum is its hauling a$$ compared current data. Nosler Unprimed Brass 204 Ruger $ 53.82 - $ 208.59 Select options Nosler Unprimed Brass 220 Swift (50) $ 84.99 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 222 Rem (100) $ 111.28 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 222 Rem Magnum (250) Unprocessed Rated 5.00 out of 5 $ 215.54 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 223 Rem $ 50.18 - $ 206.83 Select options Your results may vary. and a high B.C. Most hunters who resist target practice can get a lifetime of good accuracy out of these 7mms. Good luck in your search, hope youll be as happy as I am with my results. With RL26 I stuck a case in the chamber @ 3150fps. Essentially, 7mm PRC rifles will be manufactured with match-grade chambers. Mag. JavaScript is disabled. Arbeidstid: 08.00-16.00mandag til fredagVi vil svare deg innen 48-72 timer. The 7 PRC should be built on 1:8 or 1:7.5 twist barrels to stabilize all these. Barrels are like truck tires. Been looking for a while. Running 8twist Proof 168s run flat, 5.2mils the other morning at 912y. Thanks, BnG. at the muzzle. . Brass is not going anywhere as a handloaders cartridge. Another vote for 280ai if building a light weight hunt rig all the horsepower needed close to 7rm but standard action with room for an extra round. You might think Remington started the 7mm cartridge trend in 1962 with its famous 7mm Remington Magnum, but by then the 7mm Mauser was already well known. Crap I don't remember, I'd have to pull a bullet, I've ran H1000, Retumbo and lots of R33, that load was H1000 but I only have the speed in AB. 6.5 PRC or .28 Nosler. SAUM shows that 56.0 grains of IMR 4350 powder will drive their 140 grain bullets to a MV of 2943 fps, and 60.0 grains of IMR 4350 is good for a MV of 3146 fps. It will shoot as fast as a 7mm SAUM and brass is easy to find. This precision does not mean the 7mm PRC is a long range target round only. Vintersalg: Opptil 60 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr Dec 7, 2019 #14 ; 7 mag easy. Engineers made three modifications that ensured popularity: they shortened the case to fit standard-length actions. Will be running as a long action so no worries about magazine issues. In 1962 the 7mm Rem. Ive got the same dilemma. He is having adg make brass for him, its head stamped and the neck diameter and length are correct for his design, will still need to be fire formed. It is simply the 7mm SAUM case necked down. But with laser rangefinders one can easily compensate for the slightly greater drop of the 7mm Rem. And that means more powder. I neither believe in this minimum nor in shooting elk at 700 yards, but this is impressive performance for a standard-length cartridge nearing its 60th birthday. I just did a 7mm build too. The factory offerings for ammo hold no weight with me, but that probably plays a role in many people's decisions. Of course, this was an overreaction, but at the time millions were convinced the new 7mm was the do-all-end-all of deer/elk/moose and even bear hunting cartridges. For reasons that I can't explain (though perhaps have something to do with me eating paint chips as a kid), I have an obsession with 3k FPS muzzle velocity. This compromise should account for the slower muzzle velocities many rifles produce with factory loads and safe handloads. New member question. 7mm SAUM Rechamber/Barrel Life. And heres a top load for the 175-gr. Rich is a good guy to talk to on the phone we bsd a bit the other day. Bullet made it in about 3" an blew a big hole in it. Mag. It may not display this or other websites correctly. No more than 7-pounds finished and field ready. I went 7SAUM. Consider that already own a 270 Win with a 22" barrel. ADG 30 Nosler Brass. These bullets are super tempting to run at 3200+. 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